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  "canonical_statement": "Let $\\Gamma$ be a property (T) group admitting an injective, non-surjective endomorphism and let $G$ be the associated ascending HNN-extension. Let\n$$\nW=\\left(\\bigoplus_{G/\\Gamma}\\mathbb Z/2\\mathbb Z\\right)\\rtimes G.\n$$\nWe show that $W$ is not an MF group and that $C^*(G)$ is not a finite $C^*$-algebra. The ideas and proofs were generated by ChatGPT 5.6 Sol, we have only refined their arguments in a hopefully more palatable form.",
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      "summary": "If $\\Gamma$ is a non-coHopfian property-(T) group and $G$ is its ascending HNN extension, then the full group algebra $C^*(G)$ is not finite. Indeed, Kazhdan projections $p_H<p_\\Gamma$ become unitarily equivalent under the stable letter, which cannot occur inside a finite $C^*$-algebra.\n\nFor\n$$\nW=\\left(\\bigoplus_{G/\\Gamma}\\mathbb Z/2\\mathbb Z\\right)\\rtimes G,\n$$\nthe paper proves more strongly that every homomorphism\n$$\nW\\to U\\!\\left(\\prod M_{d_n}/\\bigoplus M_{d_n}\\right)\n$$\nkills an explicit nonidentity element $b_\\gamma$. Hence $W$ is not MF. Consequently $C_r^*(W)$ is an explicit stably finite but non-MF $C^*$-algebra.",
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